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Ordinations and Consecrations 

Fr. Steven Hartley was ordained as a catholic priest in the Archdiocese of Brisbane by Archbishop Bathersby, under the New Right of Ordination, on the 5th of July 2002. He was conditionally ordained a priest by Bishop Adamson on the 29th of April 2010, under the Latin Rite in San Fransisco USA according to the 'Pontificale Romanum: Summorum Pontificum, Jussu Editum, a Bendicto XIV et Leone XIII, Pontificibus Maximus MDCCCXCV'.

Fr Steven Hartley was then subsequently consecrated a Bishop by Bishop Joseph Macek, on the 24th May 2022, Our Lady Help of Christians Feast Day, at St Michael the Archangel Roman Catholic Church Windsor, Pennsylvania.  

Archbishop Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc and Bishop Christian Marie Datessen 

Over the years there has been controversies by different "traditionalists", whether they be Bishops, priests, or members of SSPX, CMRI, SSPV or any other group concerning the Archbishop Thuc and his line consecrations and their validity.  This is also the case with Bishop Datessen.  I would like to outline somewhat the case for the validity of the consecration of Bishop Datessen and his line of consecrations. 

Bishop Datessen was an Old Catholic priest and Bishop. He was consecrated to the Episcopy by Andre Alexandre Enos a Bishop of the Old Holy Catholic Church (Vilatte and Mathew Linage) on the 10/09/1981.  He was then consequently conditionally consecrated a Bishop by Archbishop Thuc on 25/09/1982 at Castel Sarrasin in France.  (Terry Boyle Thuc Consecrations)

Many people will argue that just because Bishop Datessen was first consecrated an Old Catholic Bishop that his lines of consecration are invalid.  Firstly, Old Catholic lines are valid and recognized formally by the Catholic Church.  Secondly Archbishop Thuc was a validly consecrated Bishop of the Roman Catholic Church and so he conferred on Bishop Datessen Valid Episcopal Orders. 

When reading through "The Administration of the Sacraments" by Nicholas Halligan, O.P. (1964) he states that "Every consecrated bishop and only such is the Ordinary minister of valid ordination."  .... "It makes no difference for validity even if the bishop is heretical, schismatic, excommunicated, degraded..."  (Halligan p. 367)   Also, in his footnotes he references Pope Pius ix recognizing the validity of Old Catholic orders both priest and bishop, because they have instituted a catholic hierarchy.  Pope Pius ix properly condemned them as heretics and warned Catholics to have nothing to do with them.

In Canon 1002 (1917 Code of Canon Law) states that "In conferring any order, the minister must thoroughly observe the proper rites in the Pontifical and other rites described in the liturgical books approved by the Church, and for no reason is he permitted to omit or invert them."  What this Canon is stating that when the ordinary minister is going to ordain or consecrate a man to the priesthood or to the episcopy that it his responsibility to follow the rite of ordination or consecration.  He is the one to verify whether or not he followed the rites of the church.  

What many people do not realize when they try and make the case that Archbishop Thuc did not validly consecrate Datessen to the Episcopy is that Archbishop Thuc had been consecrating man to the priesthood and episcopy for nearly 40 years.  He did know the rites of ordination and consecration.  He did know the matter and form necessary to confect a valid sacrament of Holy Orders.  So, when Archbishop Thuc states that he validly consecrated Bishop Datessen to the Episcopy, he can make this claim, because he did what the church requires of him to confect a valid sacrament of consecration.  Nobody then should question his ability to confect a valid sacrament, unless they have substantial evidence to prove otherwise. 


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